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  Truth and Reconciliation

  (Follow-up to "why no impeachment?) Speaker Pelosi, our country TORTURED people. We illegally invaded and occupied a sovereign country bas ...more »

   

  (Follow-up to "why no impeachment?)

  Speaker Pelosi, our country TORTURED people. We illegally invaded and occupied a sovereign country based on lies. The damage to our international standing, our moral authority to speak on atrocities in Sudan, Zimbabwe, Myanmar and elsewhere, has been profound and may be irreparable. You say impeachment or prosecutions for the architects of these crimes is "off the table", and today (I assume) you will give your reasons for that.

  Given those reasons, will you support and implement a Truth and Reconciliation process that at least investigates these crimes and provides a framework for acknowledgement, repentance and reparations to the victims of these crimes, even if punishment is "off the table"?

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  Submitted by klangley2 2 years ago

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  Don't You Agree That Failure To Impeach Is Even Worse Than Torture? (In Truth, It Is.)

  It seems clear that while war criminals/torturers may come and go, to put the entire enforcement power of the US Constitution "off the table ...more »

   

  It seems clear that while war criminals/torturers may come and go, to put the entire enforcement power of the US Constitution "off the table" by failing to impeach when warranted (now) is an even more damaging act -- both as a response to the ongoing torture and war crimes by this regime and as a precedent for future congressional impotence.

  You seem to have started to recognize this reality when you said "If I were not the speaker and I were not in Congress, I would probably be advocating for impeachment." (7/31/07)

  Perhaps it's time to take yourself up on this "suggestion" -- and confess to your own personal failings as Leader and Speaker (it's good for the soul) -- and then let the rest of our once-great nation get on with the Redemption of Our National Soul -- which can ONLY begin with Impeachment.

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  Submitted by thedeanpeople 2 years ago

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  What is your position on torture?

  Considering your failure to meaningfully object to waterboarding in the 2002 Intelligence Committee briefings, do you consider your reputati ...more »

   

  Considering your failure to meaningfully object to waterboarding in the 2002 Intelligence Committee briefings, do you consider your reputation, or that of the Democratic Party, to be tarnished by America's involvement with torture, "rendition," and illegal imprisonment?

  Is there an issue of national security that trumps secrecy? Do you think that by torturing people and being quiet about it, we are safer? Do you plan to allow Congress to bring anyone to justice, and if so, are you afraid you might be on that list?

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  Submitted by mmuskratt 2 years ago

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  Impeachment vs enacting essential legislation

  Madam Speaker - With regard to your rationale for taking impeachment "off the table" - a commitment to important legislation on behalf ...more »

   

  Madam Speaker -

  With regard to your rationale for taking impeachment "off the table" - a commitment to important legislation on behalf of the American people - I have 3 questions:

  1) Which of these [** below] have you "accomplished" SATISFACTORILY on behalf of the American people?

  2) If, as you assert, filibuster [threats] by Republican Senators have stalled these - why then are you NOT now pursuing impeachment?

  3) During your & Sen. Reid's majority tenure (nearly 16 months), how many hours of functional filibuster have Republicans actually engaged in?

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  ** End the Iraq war & hold administration accountable for its failures & war's horrendous costs?

  ** Reverse Bush's failed tax policy - skewed to benefit the wealthiest?

  ** Strengthen the economy; reverse burgeoning budget deficits & trade imbalance?

  ** Effectively address climate change?

  ** Institute a viable long-range energy policy?

  ** Provide health care for ~ 50 million uninsured Americans?

  ** Remedy 37 million American children living in poverty?

  ** Protect constitutional rights; reinstate justice and the rule of law

  (FISA, habeas corpus, torture, corporate criminality, politicization of Justice Dep't, etc.)

  ** Restore balance of powers (Bush's assertions of near-monarchical powers, domestic spying,

  signing statements, refusal of subpoenas, lying to Congress & the American people, conservative activism by Supreme Court, etc)

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  Submitted by jerswing 2 years ago

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  Complicity on torture

  Last December, the Washington Post revealed that you were one of four members of Congress secretly briefed on "the CIA's overseas detention ...more »

   

  Last December, the Washington Post revealed that you were one of four members of Congress secretly briefed on "the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk", including waterboarding. And yet, as Glenn Greenwald notes, you took no steps to stop or restrict an interrogation program the International Red Cross has emphatically called "torture". Would you allow or impede criminal investigations into the Bush Administration's use of torture based on the fact that you were complicit in it? Or do you dispute your complicity?

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