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Safeguarding voting machine tallys
Posted by edified 07/07/2008 12:00 AM PDT
Is there any bill now pending that would force electronic voting machines to produce a paper trail, and/or otherwise protect the integrity of elections. If so, when will it come to vote? If not, why not?
Idea # 74Category/Tags : Elections/Strategy (15) 
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jmhmail
07/07/2008
Congress could certainly make this a requirement for federal elections, which would "trickle down" to state-only elections.
blaze
07/08/2008
Yes, paper balloting should be law, as well as protections for citizens with regard to ID requirements. There has been so much fraud, primarily on the part of politicians, in rigging elections, and preventing citizens from their legal right to vote.
yellerdawg
07/09/2008
Why (since the Constitutional issues are "off the table" - grrrrr) is this not priority one? There's convincing evidence that the Presidency was stolen in 2000 and 2004, and other races in 2006. What is being done to mitigate this in 2008? Is it even on the radar? Are you even aware that they will steal again if given the opportunity?
freefoodfun
07/12/2008
And chain of custody laws that make it a mandatory federal offense to take ballot boxes home or break the seals so that even with paper ballots we know they have not been tampered with. Also make a federal law of handcounts at a 10% trigger rate and at least 30% of the ballots and random controls so that no state law can supercede the federal.
yellerdawg
07/15/2008
Here is a forum you might find interesting, if you are not already aware of it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203
abbe
07/15/2008
We must get rid of all electronic voting machines period! If you just add a paper trail to these vulnerable machines and make it federal law, then you are mandating secret vote counting being controlled by private corporations with agendas. There is no amount of pre-testing that can ever find secret errant malicious progrmming. Ask the experts. You would have to hand-count at every single precinct the votes to catch vote fraud. Why have the machines to begin with. Am I being too "extreme?" NO, I have studied this issue for five years and understand the problems. This is a very complex issue. Many audits of "paper trails" are triggered by close races. How do you know the race is close if a corrupted machine tabulated the votes? Go read the california red team studies and count the ways op-scan machines and touch screens with paper trails added can be easily hacked undetected! We must remove the vendors and machines from the election process. Microsoft lobbyed successfully and radically changed the last paper trail bill that was in debate in Congress. Software and hardware would remain secret and proprietary. Your votes would be manipulated and have been manipulated with these machines.
Read what happened in the January 2008 recount in New Hampshire. We cannot count on a recount. We must get it right on election night with citzens running and counting our own elections. anyone who thinks that the paper trail is a step in the right direction is not telling you the whole story. WHY WON"T THE VENDORS REVEAL THEIR SOURCE CODE IF THEY WERE HONEST? The source code they were forced to show turned out to be a text book on how to rig an election! Bev Harris with a team of computer experts with Black Box Voting.org proved how easy it is to hack both op-scam machines and touch screens with printers added-a paper trail on real live election equipment under county supervision. I rest my case.
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